[Toybox] bounces

[Robert Thompson]

the antispam algorithms care more about the mailserver delivering the spam
and less about the maildomain of the spam. Thus, the toybox list is already
near spam thresholds due to the large amounts of actual spam originating
from dreamhost mailservers.

I'm unfortunately more familiar with the underlying details than I want to
be; up until a few years ago, I was responsible for a large organization's
mail servers and antispam systems. It's nearly impossible to ensure that
all spam gets caught while same-origin ham gets through.

I have a mail rule that autoreplies to toybox bounce messages, ensuring
that I get resubscribed even if I don't immediately notice.



On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:

> On 09/02/2017 08:08 PM, Alain Toussaint wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> >
> > does my email address is bouncing too much for the lists?
>
> Sometimes gmail's spam filter false positives on utterly random stuff.
> (in this case, it decided it didn't like
> http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/toybox-landley.net/
> 2017-September/009148.html).
>
> When that happens it refuses delivery from dreamhost's mailing list
> software, so dreamhost's mailing software retries delivery, and after
> they argue for a bit it accumulates enough bounce messages to disable
> the account for 7 days. It does this for every single gmail user
> subscribed to the list, meaning I have to go in and manually undo it
> through a web interface that only shows me one letter's worth of
> subscriber's at a time. (Of course I can't get command line access, it's
> dreamhost. Of course I can't fix the web interface to show me everybody
> at once instead of navigating through 2 dozen separate pages, it's
> dreamhost.)
>
> Unfortunately, gmail does this a _lot_...
>
> http://lists.landley.net/htdig.cgi/toybox-landley.net/
> 2017-April/008955.html
> http://lists.landley.net/htdig.cgi/toybox-landley.net/
> 2016-August/008604.html
> http://lists.landley.net/htdig.cgi/toybox-landley.net/
> 2017-April/008957.html
> http://lists.landley.net/htdig.cgi/toybox-landley.net/
> 2017-March/008887.html
> http://lists.landley.net/htdig.cgi/toybox-landley.net/
> 2016-December/008766.html
>
> I just went through and manually re-enabled all the disabled accounts
> again.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rob
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