[Toybox] [PATCH] Add .wav support to file(1).

Rob Landley rob at landley.net
Sat Sep 15 13:53:41 PDT 2018



On 09/15/2018 10:19 AM, enh wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:25 PM Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/15/2018 12:06 AM, Rob Landley wrote:
>>> On 09/07/2018 07:16 PM, enh wrote:
>>>> Ping?
>>>
>>> Gmail's spam filter again, sorry.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> And sending either that or the message before it did the "delivery refused,
>> enough retransmits happened for dreamhost's mailman install to disable my
>> subscription until I replied to the stop-doing-that email."
> 
> is it patches that cause trouble, or just mail in general? (if it's
> specifically patches, we could make more use of github pull requests
> instead.)

It's utterly random. It's gmail false positiving on all sorts of messages, not
just putting them in the spam folder but refusing delivery of them (so you can't
move them _out_ of the spam folder and tell it they were not spam so it has a
chance to learn).

I think the original problem was that multiple Googlers had their email
misconfigured for a long time. Here's Linus complaining about it last month:

  http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1808.1/01642.html

> Your situation *may* be the same as the Chromium guys. Quoting Doug:
> 
> "Looks like it's all fixed. Both Kees and I setup our chromium.org
> accounts a long time ago. IIRC during that time the suggested way to
> do things was that you'd use your @google.com SMTP settings even when
> you were sending as your @chroumium.org account. These days it
> doesn't appear that there's even any UI in gmail to configure things
> that way, so presumably nobody else will be stuck in the same hole
> that Kees and I were in"

Which meant every time I went into the spam directory, there were a bunch of
lkml messages (including _every_ one from Kees for multiple months) categorized
as spam, and then it would spread to similar qemu posts, and then it would hit
the lxc list and so on because of "similarity", and even though I'd periodically
go through and "no, this is not spam" on lots of stuff to try to teach it
better, it gradually learned that "email from googlers, and anything that looks
like legitimate linux-kernel traffic, is ALMOST spam just for existing. Because
it looks like other emails that we were categorized as spam for header reasons,
and emails that expired out of the spam folder before being moved out again
because who notices a few missing lkml messages?"

I dunno how to fix it other than police my spam filter daily and hope it
eventually rehabilitates, which is a pain and I forget to do it when it's not
obviously failing at me.

Rob



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