[Toybox] Would someone please explain what bash is doing here?

Chet Ramey chet.ramey at case.edu
Wed May 6 12:32:33 PDT 2020


On 5/6/20 2:08 PM, Rob Landley wrote:

>> You're blogging these bash corner cases, too?
> 
> I was. I was recently asked to stop.

Who asked you to stop?


> If you change them, that makes bash a moving target. 

Bash is evolving, not dead. There is room for bug fixes and improvements
everywhere. I'm not going to stop fixing things, even if they've been there
for a long time, if I think the behavior is wrong. Conversely, if I don't
think the behavior is wrong, backwards compatibility is an important
consideration.

> I'd use the man page as the spec, but when the man page documents $_ it says
> "absolute path":
> 
>        _      At  shell  startup,  set to the absolute pathname used to invoke
>               the shell or shell script being executed as passed in the  envi‐
>               ronment  or  argument  list.
> 
> And that's not what bash does:
> 
>   $ ln -s $(which bash) .
>   $ ./bash -c 'echo $_'
>   ./bash

Sure. Probably another corner case to change; the documentation this time.


> (P.S. If you think I'm being meticulous, you should see what the actual security
> professionals I used to follow on twitter do to this stuff: @aloria and
> @hacks4pancakes and @fox0x01 and @0xabad1dea and @malwareunicorn and @evacide
> and so on. 

Yep, I read them too when they come into my feed, and sometimes when they
don't.


>>> I currently have no IDEA what "sh --help" should look like when I'm done, 
>>
>> I'm pretty sure bash --help complies with whatever GNU coding standards
>> cover that option.
> 
> Currently 2/3 of bash --help lists the longopts, one per line, without saying
> what they do. So yeah, that sounds like the GNU coding standards.

Hey, it's supposed to be brief. I did consider how to handle the long
options, since it's easy to do the one-letter options, and decided there
wasn't really a better way to do it.

Chet

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