[Toybox] Project progress for 0.8.3.
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Fri May 29 12:00:55 PDT 2020
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 1:55 PM Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:
>
> Two weeks since the release and Wikipedia[citation needed] hasn't noticed yet,
> which is fine and normal (I just don't want them to be actively _wrong_), but
> their "Project progress" section explains that "in 2015"... which was 5 years
> ago now? And they still link to http://www.landley.net/toybox/todo.txt from 2011
> which is PURELY HISTORICAL...
wikipedia doesn't update itself, you know :-)
(if you were actually just trying to get someone to do it for you: done.)
> Right. I can at least do a current 2020 analysis. Pulling up
> https://landley.net/toybox/status.html which I updated for 0.8.3, here are the
> lists. Of the 343 proposed commands it lists:
>
> --- completed (204 commands)
> acpi arch ascii base64 basename blkid blockdev bunzip2 bzcat cal cat catv chattr
> chgrp chmod chown chroot chrt chvt cksum clear cmp comm count cp cpio crc32 cut
> date devmem df dirname dmesg dnsdomainname dos2unix du echo egrep eject env
> expand factor fallocate false fgrep file find flock fmt free freeramdisk
> fsfreeze fstype fsync ftpget ftpput getconf grep groups gunzip halt head help
> hexedit hostname hwclock i2cdetect i2cdump i2cget i2cset iconv id ifconfig
> inotifyd insmod install ionice iorenice iotop kill killall killall5 link ln
> logger login logname losetup ls lsattr lsmod lspci lsusb makedevs mcookie md5sum
> microcom mix mkdir mkfifo mknod mkpasswd mkswap mktemp modinfo mount mountpoint
> mv nbd-client nc netcat netstat nice nl nohup nproc nsenter od oneit partprobe
> passwd paste patch pgrep pidof ping ping6 pivot_root pkill pmap poweroff
> printenv printf prlimit ps pwd pwdx readahead readlink realpath reboot renice
> reset rev rfkill rm rmdir rmmod sed seq setfattr setsid sha1sum shred sleep sntp
> sort split stat strings su swapoff swapon switch_root sync sysctl tac tail tar
> taskset tee test time timeout top touch true truncate tty tunctl ulimit umount
> uname uniq unix2dos unlink unshare uptime usleep uudecode uuencode uuidgen
> vconfig vmstat w watch wc which who whoami xargs xxd yes zcat
>
> --- pending (68 commands)
> addgroup adduser arp arping bash bc bootchartd brctl cd crond crontab dd
> deallocvt delgroup deluser dhcp dhcp6 dhcpd diff dumpleases exit expr fdisk fold
> fsck getfattr getty groupadd groupdel host init ip ipaddr ipcrm ipcs iplink
> iproute iprule iptunnel klogd last lsof man mdev mke2fs modprobe more openvt
> route sh stty sulogin syslogd tcpsvd telnet telnetd tftp tftpd toysh tr
> traceroute traceroute6 udpsvd useradd userdel vi wget xzcat
>
> --- todo (71 commands)
> ar at awk chfn chsh cols compress csplit diff3 dig dir dosfslabel ed fsck.ext2
> fsck.vfat ftpd fuser genext2fs getevent groupmod gzip hexdump hostid ipconfig
> iwconfig iwlist join kexec kinit less mkfs.vfat newfs_msdos newgrp nfsmount ntpd
> pathchk pinky rdate resize2fs resume rpm2cpio rsync runcon sdiff sendmail sfdisk
> sha224sum sha256sum sha384sum sha3sum sha512sum shutdown stdbuf sudo sum tabs
> tput tracepath tune2fs unexpand unzip usermod users vdir zcmp zdiff zegrep
> zfgrep zip zless zmore
>
> --- which means
> So a first guess would be more like 70% done, because if you just take 204 plus
> half of 68, divided by 343 you get just under 70%. But that's not right for a
> BUNCH of reasons. THe first of which is those three lists aren't quite
> everything, when I run "make distclean defconfig toybox; scripts/mkstatus.py" it
> also says:
>
> uncategorized: blkdiscard rtcwake getopt readelf eval exec export shift unset
> -sh -toysh -bash
>
> But the uncategorized stuff actually means I need to add a few things I've
> already DONE to the roadmap, but half of it's shell builtins (eval, exec,
> esport, shift, unset, -sh, -toysh, -bash) that don't actually count as separate
> commands.
>
> blkdiscard and rtcwake I already promoted, they'd go in the "done" category if
> they were listed in the roadmap so the script could find them. Readelf is in
> pending but isn't hard, it's just "spend an hour reading 600 lines closely" and
> probably staring at specs and test files. I've mostly been waiting because it's
> a recent addition and Elliott was still poking at it.
yeah, i'll get back to that (and nm and size) at some point, but have
had even less time lately.
> That leaves getopt, which is legitimately stuck in pending due to being a
> design-level nightmare: the one that's there works fine but pulls in a whole
> second set of option parsing logic from lib.c that nothing else uses.
that's kind of the _point_ of that command :-)
> Do I want
> to accept that or try to adapt it to use lib/args.c which may change the
> resulting semantics in ways that require a close reading of the spec? (Note that
> I've never used this command because it sucks, and the shell's builtin "getopts"
> is an UNRELATED command, and collectively I'd really rather not. But alas, it's
> in posix, and somebody's script is using it...)
>
> --- mkroot
>
> Remember my whole "self-hosting build" goal? Well I integrated a system builder
> into toybox, which Wikipedia[citation needed] will probably never notice. There
> are only two more commands that needs missing from toybox defconfig to create a
> usable basic standalone system: "sh" and "route", both of which are being worked
> on. The sh that's there is already semi-usable, I'd guess it's 2/3 done maybe?
> (Hard to tell, it's difficult to scope work you haven't done yet.)
>
> Route is still in pending because I'm ambitious and want one that does multiple
> routing tables, which the existing implementation wasn't designed for (but
> neither was debian's; I want to do _better_ than net-tools).
>
> As for creating a self-hosting build environment, the list I have written down
> for building the old Linux From Scratch version I was testing with was
> (according to scripts/install.sh):
>
> PENDING="dd diff expr ftpd less tr vi wget awk sh sha512sum sha256sum unxz xzcat
> bc bison flex make nm ar gzip"
>
> The commands "diff, ftpd, less, vi" are there because humans log into a build
> system to debug stuff sometimes, and it's nice to have basic amenities. Not
> STRICTLY required (you can use network mounts instead of ftpd, it's just my old
> build system used ftpd), but eh. There's been quite a lot of work on vi in
> pending, and there's a diff there I'm told works. I did "watch" already and
> that's the basic plumbing "less" uses, to be honest that one's held up by "more"
> not sharing code with it (and quite possibly a design/conceptual level, need to
> frown at it some more). diff sucks in diff3 and sdiff and my main complaint is I
> wanted to use braham cohen's patience algorithm. :P
>
> The commands "bc, bison, flex" are only there because modern linux kernel
> development has gone off the deep end into crazytown. Grrr. There's a very large
> bc in pending I need to slim down, and I've never used yacc/lex for anything and
> need to learn to in order to write replacements.
>
> gzip: I have the start of a deflate implementation, I need to get back to it. I
> was trying to be binary identical with what other gzips produced which hit the
> "when do you flush the dictionary" question, which doesn't seem to have an
> official answer. Test the debian output and match that, I suppose.
>
> ar would be trivial if it wasn't for -s mode, the format of which is completely
> undocumented. (Not hard, just annoying.)
>
> nm is basically "readelf with a different output format", it's pending on the
> readelf cleanup. (Which is half done, I just got distracted from it.)
>
> I've started to clean up dd something like 5 times and gotten distracted, it's
> not _hard_ it's just long and not something I want to start again without a
> block of uninterrupted time laid out for it. (At least a week, it's constructed
> entirely out of corner cases.)
>
> Last time I tried to clean up expr I hit the problem that posix had suffered a
> regression (its html renderer lost grouping information), which is long since
> fixed I just never got back to it...
>
> It would be trivial to cleanup tr except I want to teach it utf8 support, which
> makes everybody who knows about this scream in pain, AND YET...
>
> awk is probably the largest remaining can of worms I haven't opened. Like most
> people I only use it to "cherry pick the 4th word from this list", but I need to
> implement the full language. The busybox one was 2800 lines when I was
> maintaining it. (It's probably longer now.)
>
> sha256sum and sha512sum are tangled into the "sha-3" todo item (see also
> sha224sum sha384sum and sha3sum). I did my own md5sum and sha1sum
> implementations way back when (which are merged and share code) and I want to
> see if I can fit the rest in there, but haven't sat down to really focus on it
> yet. (It's mathy, there's research. Like the compression algorithms. I do NOT
> wanna be distracted from chewing on it halfway through, so big chunka time.)
for anyone happy with using libcrypto's optimized code, though, these
are all done. count them as 50%? :-)
> unxz and xzcat: see "mathy", above. I found public domain implementations of the
> decompressor way back, glued them together, and stuck them in pending. I should
> make sure there haven't been security fixes or obvious format changes, and then
> do to that what I did to bunzip2 ages ago
> (https://git.busybox.net/busybox/commit/?id=0d6d88a2058d).
>
> make is a post-1.0 todo item, and really properly belongs in qcc.
>
> --- the rest of the pending/todo items
>
> As for the remaining pending and todo commands, a chunk of them are shell
> aliases and shell builtins that are part of the "toysh" todo item: bash sh toysh
> cd exit
>
> The "user management" commands (addgroup adduser delgroup deluser groupadd
> groupdel useradd userdel chfn chsh groupmod newgrp usermod) have been low
> priority because android doesn't use normal user accounts and never will (each
> app is installed as a different UID, that's a legacy decision from before
> containers happened). I'd like to convince android to create a "posix container"
> within which you can have multiple users and run binaries you build, but that's
> an ongoing discussion. None of this is hard to clean up and promote, I just
> haven't bothered because I didn't have an immediate use case. Now that mkroot's
> there using a simple /etc/passwd I should cycle back to them.
>
> bootchard was an external submission: I've never used it. It's not hard to clean
> up, I just have to learn how to use it in order to _test_ it...
>
> I've never been a big user of cron, so "crond crontab" are more "easy to clean
> up, but I don't have tests for them". I've used "at" before, but I think it
> hooks into crond somehow? (There _is_ a server component...) Really I just
> haven't looked at those yet.
>
> I haven't prioritized "deallocvt openvt" because VGA hardware virtual terminals
> aren't really a thing anymore, but I should get them out of the way. (It's
> _just_ rebooty enough that I've been reluctant to try it on my laptop for fear
> of it doing a wobbly and me having to reboot to get my screen back, losing all
> my open windows on 8 desktops, but... gotta bite the bullet sometime. It's not
> as scary as testing rm -rf for the first time... Ok, done, and email fired off
> to see if the original submitter can test it.)
>
> People submitted "tcpsvd udpsvd" (which I don't use) after I already implemented
> netcat -l (which I do use, and it's got a UDP mode because of google guys
> wanting that, possibly for netconsole) and I'm going "this should be merged
> somehow"?
>
> ip ipaddr ipcrm ipcs iplink iproute iprule iptunnel: I don't use the "ip"
> command, and its existence annoys me. Refusing to update ifconfig and route to
> new APIs and instead throwing them out and replacing them with a giant hairball
> that works like git with subcommands is sad. I'm updating the original commands
> to do the right thing, and implementing standalone versions of anything that
> ONLY this does. I do not consider these part of the 1.0 release, when I'm done
> they should be aliases for the standalone commands (because other people prefer
> that UI due to familiarity). This is there now because it was an external
> contribution and I didn't want to stand in the way.
>
> I started cleaning up "man" once and other people were changing it while I was
> changing it, so I deleted my changes and merged theirs, and haven't looked at it
> again since. Possibly it's quiet enough now, but I haven't cycled back to it.
ugh, yeah, i need to dig out my man changes too. unfortunately they're
currently in a bit of a local optimum where i need to rewrite quite a
bit _again_ now i've uncovered a few more worms.
> There's a pile of network stuff (arp arping brctl dig host traceroute
> traceroute6) that's not hard, I just haven't needed it yet. It's all behind
> "route" on the todo list, which is the next one I _do_ need. I note that
> traceroute/traceroute6/tracepath are elaborate variants of "ping", and host/dig
> are the same command with different UI and output.
>
> There's also network client/server stuff (telnet telnetd tftp tftpd wget httpd
> dhcp dhcp6 dhcpd dumpleases) which is more "elaborate but not hard". More time
> consuming than difficult. (Modulo I need to test ph7 with httpd, and that and
> wget need https integration via the command line stuff, see also
> http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/toybox-landley.net/2017-September/009158.html
> and http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/toybox-landley.net/2016-March/004865.html
> which means I need to install bearssl into mkroot for testing which sounds like
> SO much fun... Sigh. But that's foisting a difficult bit off onto an external
> program. It's a pity dropbear never provided https, but I can see wanting to
> avoid the key management part of that.)
>
> The group "mkfs.vfat, newfs_msdos, dosfslabel, fsck.vfat" I've done some work
> on, also I also want genfatfs and mtools support, but am not adding them to the
> roadmap just now. Got distracted, haven't gotten back to it. The transitions
> from fat12, fat16, and fat32 are kind of magic/evil but other than that it's
> pretty straightfward...
>
> Similarly, I did about the first half of mkext2fs and genext2fs back in the day
> (like 2006) and got REALLY distracted by that whole "leaving busybox" thing,
> still haven't gotten back to it and in the mean time ext4 happened which I do
> _not_ understand. That impacts fsck.ext2 (what exactly can go _wrong_?) and then
> there's tune2fs (trivial once the others are in) and resize2fs (kind of an fsck
> variant almost). It's all a group, if I _just_ want ext3 I can probably do it in
> a couple months? If I wasn't doing anything else at the time...
>
> fsck itself is just a wrapper around the filesystem-specific fsck commands, I've
> got one in pending but until there are other fscks to test it with... (I mean I
> _can_ clean it up.)
>
> fdisk grew a new format when disks hit 2TB: MBR I understood GPT I do not. It's
> on the todo list. I sort of want sfdisk at the same time (scriptable!) but
> sfdisk turns out to be really ugly from a UI standpoint and conventional fdisk
> is scriptable via "echo | fdisk" so...
>
> screw sendmail, why is it on this list? (Because some other package had it. I'm
> not doing it, that whole ecosystem is crypto all the way down now.) And compress
> is obsolete (due to historical patents, it got killed by gzip), I don't care
> what posix says. The .Z file format is like supporting arj.
>
> iwconfig and iwlist are sort of an ecosystem with wpa_supplicant, I'd declare it
> out of scope except the hardware it controls it's pretty widely used these days.
> I need a wrapper script to associate my laptop with an access point from the
> command line, which I've never quite managed to do on _debian_, so... (Because
> access keys. There's a tool to turn a wpa_passphrase into what the hardware
> consumes and it's crotchety and all handled by magic GUI wrappers people make
> that work VERY HARD to hide the details. I know the theory but am always missing
> a corner case somewhere. Closest I got was trying to associate with my phone at
> UT when I first got this laptop, ala
> https://landley.net/notes-2019.html#17-04-2019 and it did not fill me with
> confidence...)
>
> lsof and fuser are similar and tricky. They should share code, the PROBLEM is
> lsof's command line is horrific and has 8 gazillion weird little corner cases
> and mostly I don't care but the one that was submitted doesn't support +D which
> is one of the most useful things it does (recursively show all open files under
> directory), so... (Plus merging the ipv4 and ipv6 plumbing in its internet
> listing. Again, me being picky and insisting on things I don't TECHNICALLY need
> to do...)
>
> hexdump is trivial to do, except I've already got od and hexedit and they're not
> sharing code and am reluctant to ADD A THIRD. Except "hd blah" is the one I
> personally use, so... :)
>
> ed is vi, only less so. I really don't want it, but apprently implementing vi
> makes it not that bad? Or something? (I implemented _sed_ which should be able
> to do everything you need from ed, but no. There are some serious geezers out
> there who insist.)
>
> sudo is easy to implement and hard to prove correct. :P
>
> rsync isn't actually that hard (if you only implement -e ssh and ignore that
> server nonsense) and is well documented
> (https://rsync.samba.org/how-rsync-works.html). They even migrated from md4 to
> md5 (for the look of it, it never had a security implication because it wasn't
> used for that) so I've already _got_ most of the plumbing. I just haven't sat
> down to do it yet.
>
> ntpd shouldn't be in there, I implemented sntp and that covers it. (Removed.)
> I'm not sure if that covers rdate or not (I _can_ do an rdate, but when I put
> that in there I thought that qemu had an rdate server built in, and it turned
> out it was passing through 10.0.2.2 to inetd on the host that had it built in,
> and that was a previous distro and devuan hasn't got it. Hmmm...)
>
> pinky is a trivial finger, it's an afternoon's work sometime. Hard part's
> finding a finger server to test it with. :)
>
> getfattr: android sent me one, it works, I don't use xattrs.
>
> rpm2cpio is trivial but I'm not sure it's the right approach (there was better
> rpm and deb support in busybox 15 years ago, and the trick was instead of
> "database" just "directory where the header with the metadata from each
> installed package was copied to, under the original package's name", which
> worked surprisingly well. Listing installed packages was just an ls of the
> directory, for one thing.) Can of worms I have yet to open...
>
> stty: I need to clean this up. It's fiddly. Not hard, just elaborate and has no
> tests. :(
>
> modprobe: I don't use modules much myself. I know the theory, and insmod's
> already promoted...
>
> kexec: simple, requires rebooting to test, I was holding off until I had qemu
> builds going and now that mkroot's in I should circle back around to this.
> (Modulo qemu doesn't always reboot cleanly with the -kernel command line
> argument used as a builtin bootloader. I THINK kexec won't care because it
> doesn't go back through the bios?)
>
> kinit/init: some horrible klibc thing that was half-assing another command, I
> just need a proper init. (now THAT is a can of worms, I need to dig up my notes
> from https://landley.net/notes-2015.html#03-06-2015 which are at
> http://landley.net/systemd-notes.txt and make sense of them...) A "shutdown"
> command is also part of init. (As is resume, more or less.)
>
> getty and sulogin is more early system bringup stuff my systems don't use. I
> know how to do it, just haven't had reason to. "users" is kind of in that bucket
> too (list logged in users. From the minicomputer days when we all shared
> computers!) And "last". But klogd and syslogd are useful-ish (I mostly just
> dmesg myself which the kernel does for you), but now that I have mkroot I really
> _should_ get to these. (Android has its own and won't care, of course...)
>
> mdev is a thing I created way back when, which other people added a lot of stuff
> to later because they were using it, but then devtmpfs was invented and half its
> reason for being went away, but if you collapse hotplug into it I guess it's
> still useful? And there's also "notify and take action when a device shows up",
> which is still useful. Needs design work to figure out what it should look like
> now, starting with researching other people's use patterns of it.
>
> dir and vdir are just ls with a different output format, haven't bothered
> because I last used dos in something like 1992. On the one hand, it looks
> trivial (it's ls flag mapping), on the other... I've never used either one and
> would have to read the man page closely to figure out WHAT flag mappings this
> is? (And then there's the question of why either SHOULD be there? We have a
> perfectly good ls. Both come from tizen, which I haven't heard from in years,
> and although both are in coreutils... why?) Come to think of it, dir and vdir
> should probably be shell "alias" of ls...
>
> I have a hostid already, it's in toys/example because a 32 bit identifier is no
> longer globally unique, so the command's reason for being stopped working. But
> that's done, it's just in the pending list because it's not in defconfig because
> "example" isn't part of defconfig either.
>
> nfsmount is a trivialish wrapper around mount, it supplies the password so you
> don't have to -o it on the command line (making it visible to other users on the
> machine while mount runs, of which there should be none). There's an smbmount
> too. I haven't gotten to it because I don't use nfs or samba (although I keep
> meaning to write a samba server in toybox).
>
> sum is obsolete, I don't care what posix says. It predates sha1sum, md5sum, and
> for that matter crc32. Not doing it, it's in the list because some other package
> toybox has in the "when we do all these we replace that" had it and I had it in
> the "maybe" list for that package. I should take it out... it was in sash.
>
> unexpand "converts spaces to tabs". Haven't gotten around to it yet. :)
>
> tabs sets tabstops on a terminal. Is that even still supported? Oh goddess, yes
> it is. That's horrifying. Leave it there for now, figure out what to do about it
> later. (I mean, it looks like it's just a wrapper for an ioctl, but _ew_.)
>
> tput does things with the terminfo database that were last relevant in 1976,
> because we had phyiscal teletypes, then glass ttys with hardcoded behavior and
> buying an IBM TN3270 vs a DEC VT100 made a difference. And NOBODY HAS DONE THAT
> FOR 40 YEARS! These devices NO LONGER EXIST (outside of museums), we can STOP
> EMULATING THEM ALREADY. Windows never did. The mac doesn't. You have a terminal
> with a monospaced font in it and can use bog standard ANSI escape codes (as
> implemented in DOS ansi.sys in 1986) and these days EVERYTHING DOES UTF8 ENCODED
> UNICODE. (Or should.) But maybe some scripts say "tput clear" instead of "clear"
> or "reset"? Then again, those scripts should be easy to adjust shouldn't they?
> Sigh, ok "tput cup X Y" becomes the ansi escape code to jump to that location,
> fine... wait, they do Y before X? Why? But yeah, I can do a really simple
> version of this for some common cases. But HONESTLY. Yeesh. Why is that still in
> posix?
>
> fold, cols, csplit, and join are text manipulation commands that take rows of
> lines and do things to them. There's a fold in pending, the rest aren't hard.
> (Legacy of unix's early history as a typesetting system for the AT&T patent and
> licensing department, I expect....) No, "cols" is from something called
> "suckless" which contradicts itself in the name, made up lots of random new crap
> that didn't take off, and which I last looked at in November 2015. Yanking that...
>
> I've looked at pathchk before and gone "I'm not sure I agree with the premise".
> It's in posix, and devuan has it in the standard install, but... why? Define
> "portable"? Linux accepts 255 character path components with any char but NUL
> and / in them, period. And hasn't got a max length limit otherwise. Portable to
> _what_? Why? No, I don't want this one.
>
> stdbuf is sort of a wrapper that intercepts a command's stdin/stdout and does
> reads/writes of different sizes at it. I keep meaning to give it a closer look
> to see if it's worth bothering.
does this even work for libcs other than glibc? i thought it just sets
an environment variable and execs, with glibc doing the actual work?
> runcon is also already implemented. It's more selinux nonsense and I haven't got
> the selinux libraries installed on my system so the compile time probes make it
> drop out, that's why it's in the list. (It's not in _my_ defconfig, but that's a
> false negative. :)
>
> getevent is an android thing: on the one hand elliott hasn't removed it from the
> android part of the roadmap (which he maintains at this point), on the other
> there isn't one in toybox. *shrug*?
i've considered removing it from the list, given that i don't plan on
writing a toybox version, and wouldn't necessarily even switch to a
toybox version if there was one --- the Android version effectively
self-updates based on the kernel headers it's built with, and that's a
really nice feature i wouldn't want to lose (and i don't think you
want "point toybox to a set of kernel headers" in toybox). we used to
update manually, and it was always out of date. (you'd be surprised
how many keys/switches/buttons still get added.)
> zip and unzip are the next logical step after tar (which is in now), but I'd
> like to finish gzip deflate-side first.
>
> The "zcmp zdiff zegrep zfgrep zless zmore" family is just "gzip | command" and
> there should be some way to genericize it. Again, optional: you can just "zcat
> | grep" yourself, that's all just a convenience...
>
> And that's the list, triaged and explained.
>
> Anyway, taking aaaaaaaal that into account, I think I'm probably somewhere
> around 80% of the way towards the 1.0 release? It's not an exact thing, but a
> lot of what's left is simple or optional. There's a bunch of stuff there I'm not
> sure I _should_ do, and could easily trim them from the list to make a 1.0
> release. A lot of other stuff is present in pending, what's in pending works,
> and I could in a pinch lower my standards to just accept it. (Not that I'm
> likely to, but the amount of cleanup work I need to do on them can vary. There's
> a lot more reading code than writing for those, which isn't _easier_ but means
> the resulting changes should be smaller.)
>
> The hardest and biggest and most important remaining thing is the shell, which
> I'm working on. Beyond that... vi is big but somebody's working on it, bc is
> enormous and would take a long time to clean up but I can also trivially patch
> it out of the kernel and nothing else uses it anywhere that I've found (you can
> thank Peter Anvin for objecting to the removal of perl by adding another
> gratuitous build dependency that Linux From Scratch and Gentoo had to add
> because they werne't previously building it becuase nothing anywhere used it and
> nobody had asked for a 40 year old desk calculator since most systems just run
> python and such if you need to get fancy...) The biggest lumps of work left for
> ME in the 1.0 roadmap sound like:
>
> rest of the shell
> awk
> that pile of networking commands and servers
> the init/login/mdev/syslogd pile. (Which includes useradd and friends.)
> gzip compression side and zip, plus cleaning up xzcat/lzma.
> opening the sha3 can of worms (it's currently building them by linking the
> crypto code out of openssl but I don't want the dependency).
> everything else
>
> Altogether it's a lot less than what I've already done. :)
>
> (Of course "make" isn't in the 1.0 roadmap, that's qcc. Getting android
> self-hosting through a minimal binary-auditable native build environment is the
> NEXT big can of worms. It would be nice if AOSP pulled the NDK as a build
> prerequisite, but they're not there yet...)
there are inherent circular dependency issues with AOSP and the NDK
and LLVM. at the moment the basic flow is LLVM -> AOSP -> NDK (with
some of these feeding back too).
> Rob
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