[Toybox] Stupid ls API question.

[enh]

(yeah, when i looked at this [can't remember why now] i remember just
shaking my head at the stupidity --- sometimes it's like these people have
never used command line arguments before. i was also disappointed they'd
changed the default behavior in ls itself; unlike the stupid color nonsense
which was just a debian alias that i could easily get rid of.)

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 1:26 AM Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:

> So in ls I have [-Nbq] where -q would print ? instead of nongraphic
> characters,
> -b would do c-style escapes for nongraphic characters, and -N would pass
> them
> through literally. Simple, right?
>
> But that's not what the gnu/dammit version does. -b and -q replace each
> other,
> and -N turns off -b. But -N does NOT turn off -q, only -b. Instead they
> added a
> the magic longopt --show-control-chars that does what you'd THINK -N does.
>
> This means touch $'hello \rworld'; ls -qN prints hello ?world with
> gnu/dammit
> ls, which is sad.
>
> Oh, and for extra fun, "man ls" doesn't mention it in my distro but ls has
> changed its default output style AGAIN to do --quoting-style=shell-escape
> by
> default when output is to a terminal, which A) does not seem to have a
> short
> option at all, B) is implemented in a PROFOUNDLY stupid manner.
>
> 1) The above comes out as 'hello '$'\r''world' which changes quote contexts
> THREE TIMES for no obvious reason, and even the somewhat awkward touch
> abc\'$'\r'def becomes the amazingly awkward 'abc'\'''$'\r''def
>
> 2) Ever filename that is NOT escaped winds up indented by one space, which
> is
> how I first noticed the Fresh Gnu Stupid.
>
> Anyway: I'm leaning towards leaving toybox -N doing what it's doing because
> random gnu thrashing du jour is just deeply sad, but I wanted to ping the
> list
> to see if anybody had strong opinions?
>
> Rob
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