<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 6:36 AM Rob Landley <<a href="mailto:rob@landley.net">rob@landley.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 9/21/21 8:18 PM, enh via Toybox wrote:<br>
> Ironically I couldn't find a canonical source for this, but a couple of other<br>
> sites have a similar story (but different enough to make me think there really<br>
> is a Canonical press release doing the rounds). <br>
<br>
<a href="https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-14-04-and-16-04-lifecycle-extended-to-ten-years" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-14-04-and-16-04-lifecycle-extended-to-ten-years</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...in which it's a bit clearer that this only applies to the paid "LTS ESM".</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
> <a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-14.04-16.04-Ten-Years&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%29" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-14.04-16.04-Ten-Years&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%29</a><br>
> <<a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-14.04-16.04-Ten-Years&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%29" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-14.04-16.04-Ten-Years&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Phoronix+%28Phoronix%29</a>> <br>
> <br>
> TIL: Ubuntu LTS is 10 years, not 3.<br>
<br>
It was 5 when I moved off 14.04 (the last non-systemd version going out of<br>
support), but there was talk of moving it to 7?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yeah, i think my "3 years" is actually just a completely personal "it's two years between LTS major releases, and i usually wait 6 months or so before taking a major update", or alternatively "3 years is about when you start to notice that you're missing options/your compiler is old enough to miss something you've become accustomed to" :-)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> I guess Ubuntu 14/16 are the new CentOSes...<br>
<br>
Chasing taillights. Only took 'em 8 years:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://access.redhat.com/articles/69646" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://access.redhat.com/articles/69646</a><br>
<br>
Sigh. I acknowledge the industry pressure for a big round number based on how<br>
many fingers salespeople have, the problem is if you're trying to gain a market<br>
advantage by advertising a longer support horizon than the competition it's not<br>
likely to STOP there.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>does anyone that stuck in the mud even take the minor updates anyway?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Luckily, I"m mostly programming against C99 and trying to implement Posix-2008<br>
so it's not a LARGE impact. Mostly it's things like the openat() system calls<br>
still being fleshed out in places.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, "rust" is held to an entirely different standard:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/869557" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/869557</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>well, the Linux kernel doesn't support any version for 10 years anyway. that's what you're paying RedHat/Canonical for.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
And they're working hard to make sure you can't build a kernel without it:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/869145/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/869145/</a><br>
<a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/869317/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/869317/</a><br>
<a href="https://lwn.net/Articles/869428/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lwn.net/Articles/869428/</a><br>
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Grumble grumble perl removal patches...<br>
<br>
Rob<br>
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