[mkroot] To the people who keeping pinging me off list...

[David Seikel]

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:11:52 -0500 Rob Landley <rob at landley.net> wrote:

> FYI, I disabled all the subscriptions to the old aboriginal linux
> mailing list when I moved 'em over (and made new subscriptions
> require approval), so if you send a message there it goes into
> moderation.

My current "mkroot" email folder is still called "FWL".  I've been
around here for a while.  lol

> > Subject: Re: [mkroot] To the people who keeping pinging me off
> > list... From: David Seikel <onefang at gmail.com>
> > Date: 03/08/2018 02:16 PM
> > To: aboriginal at lists.landley.net
> > 
> > On Thu, 08 Mar 2018 15:03:18 -0500 Alain Toussaint
> > <alain at vocatus.pub> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >>> getting the "and now we build linux from scratch and beyond linux
> >>> from scratch natively under the result" infrastructure back in
> >>> place
> >>
> >> I'd be the one in favor of that. I have been accepted as editor of
> >> BLFS and even though I'm knee deep into build replicability
> >> territory (build LFS --> boot LFS --> build second LFS under first
> >> LFS --> see if it barf) so that I haven't been able to contribute
> >> to the 8.2 release, we do have request for 686 build and I do know
> >> that mkroot even support 486 and build a kernel for it (I myself
> >> would be curious to find a 486 able to boot LFS 8,2).
> > 
> > I might be able to help with that.  If I recall correctly, I was
> > responsible for adding the original Aboriginal Linux support, and I
> > still have the 486 device I needed that for.  Building LFS and BLFS
> > is on my TODO, and is near the top of that TODO.
> 
> I'm pretty sure 486 support works properly in mkroot? But you're
> right, I do not have actual 486 hardware to test it on, just qemu...

I started building LFS 8.1 on Sunday, and later today (Tuesday my time)
I'll continue.  I'm starting with the "build it manually yourself"
method suggested in the automated LFS page, and scripting it myself as
I go along.  I'm up to the beginning of chapter 6, I'll likely start on
bits of BLFS after finishing that.  Chapter 6 should go quickly, half
of it is building the stuff already built with some minor variations.

Today I downloaded the 8.2 stuff, I'll switch over to that next, I was
trying 8.1 first coz I had downloaded it's source some time ago.
Bandwidth in Australia is expensive, I have to carefully ration out
things like downloading 7 GB of LFS + BLFS source code, and 8.2 was
only recently released.

Then I'll move to using Aboriginal Linux for the job, which I have
experience with, or skip straight to mkroot which I haven't tried yet.

Currently building it on my x86_64 test box natively, I will at some
point tell it to build for 486.  Then I can test things on my real 486
hardware, which my old Aboriginal Linux build still works fine on.
Earlier this year the 486 device was being audited by the government
test labs, as it's the sort of device that requires that sort of thing.

I did have the idea while working on this, that the various test suites
that LFS builds for all the software that toybox replaces, might be a
good idea to see if we can get them to test toybox.  Dunno if you have
tried that yet.

-- 
A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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