[qcc] TODO?

Рысь lynx at sibserver.ru
Wed Oct 21 09:33:27 PDT 2015


On Wed, 21 Oct 2015 13:39:58 +0000
Sean Lynch <seanl at literati.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015, 04:20 Рысь <lynx at sibserver.ru> wrote:
> 
> You're talking about android like it's The Only Future and we can't
> escape. I wonder why such a hype to a corporation-influenced binary
> OS.
> 
> Rob is talking about extracting open-source code from an open-source
> distribution of Android. So "binary" is false. And
> "corporation-influenced" is an ad hominem attack. You have the code.
> Call out what you don't like in the code and point to some thing
> better that's not "corporation-influenced."
> 
> I work for Google, but I have no particular love of Android; my only
> particular interest in it is that it runs on small devices. I run
> Cyanogenmod on my Nexus 7. I use F-Droid on my corporate phone to
> install open source alternatives whenever I can.
> 
> My biggest gripe is against the Play store. It has convinced
> potential and past open source developers that they can get rich on
> their, when most of the time they'll get a pittance while the
> community loses far more value through the closing of their code. And
> more often, they keep it closed just to put ads in it, though many of
> the projects in F-Droid are open source apps that have ads in their
> Play Store version. That I can live with; if you are too dumb to
> install F-Droid you can live with the ads.
> 
> The worst thing is that AdMob is one of the products I support. I am
> an SRE so I keep it running rather than adding features to it, but
> still. I do complain about it a lot though.
> 
> I wish the Play Store had a way to search for open source projects.
> Even searching for "open source" turns up mostly closed source apps.
> Which reminds me, I need to submit that as a feature request.

The wrong thing is thinking about closed and forced platform as "open
source". Can you open source average chinese phone? Or non-google one
like HTC or other big vendor? They all come with closed, binary parts
you'll not receive code for. Never. And they prevail. That's the
characteristic for that platform. It has something "spheric", aside,
that AOSP thingy which nobody bothers to follow. Everyone preload their
devices with binary crap.

Chinese even violate GPL, but nobody sue them and never will. This also
proves that GPL does not work and question is much broader than anyone
can imagine.

The PC was nice platform. It still remains. It is somehow standartized.
The binary is only BIOS. That all droids remind me cheap embedded
routers. They are embedded, fragmented and anyone make their own. They
are no going to REPLACE PC (which Rob tries to predict). There is
nothing to replace. I can't imagine spelling errors going from tablets
and phones will soon prevail. I can't imagine true development ON
android. Photos and videos all you need? They're still toys, not
something bigger.

Old steam-powered PCs will go away, sure. I don't resist in any way.
But letting these toys replace them is sure downgrading.

And don't worry about ads. iptables serves me well.

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