[Toybox] gmail unsubscribed everyone from the list again.

[dmccunney]

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 3:49 PM David Seikel
<onefang_toybox at dave.isageek.net> wrote:
>
> > I fixed it all up via the web gui when gmail did this last week, and
> > I just fixed it up again after yesterday's mass-bouncing, but I'm
> > kind of tired of it.
> >
> > As far as I can tell, other mailing lists are coming to a "gmail is
> > too dysfunctional to use with mailing lists" consensus:
>
> I've been saying that here for some time.  Everybody just move off gmail
> and be done with it.  My non gmail address wasn't bounced off the list.
> Gmail is bad, m'kay.  Protonmail.com works OK if you want a web based
> alternative.

Gmail works fine here for every *other* mailing list I'm on, including
a couple I created and maintain as Google Groups.

The biggest mailing list problems I encounter are with folks
subscribed via AOL or Yahoo addresses.  Those sites turned on
provisions of the DKIP specification that specify that headers may not
be *changed* en route.  This breaks mailing lists, as mailing list
managers must diddle headers as part of what they do.  What happens
depends on the servers that get the list mail.  Some will discard it
undelivered as spam and not mention they have.  Some will accept and
deliver it, but label it spam (Gmail does this.)  I've told folks on
various lists using AOL or Yahoo addresses they have three choices:

Stay subscribed to the list from their AOL or Yahoo address, but be
aware that other list members may never see their posts
Drop off the list
Find another email provider.

I don't know what Gmail's allergy to the Toybox list is, but I don't
think Gmail is the problem.

(I have a Proton mail account.  Handy for the privacy obsessed, but
way too slow for volume traffic here.)
______
Dennis
(Who was *delighted* to shift to Gmail, drop MS Outlook as email
client, and download mail locally via POP)
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